Comments on: The New Datastream Aggregators, FriendFeed and Standards http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/ TechCrunching the Enterprise Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:29:04 -0700 hourly 1 By: Clica Aqui » Contextualizando : Tendências em Aplicações Sociais para 2009 http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-12925 Clica Aqui » Contextualizando : Tendências em Aplicações Sociais para 2009 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:43:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=4#comment-12925 [...] em informações demográficas imprecisas ou falsas nas redes sociais; d) a consagração dos agregadores de conteúdo, da inteligência coletiva e das conversações on-line como uma mídia; e) a popularização das [...] [...] em informações demográficas imprecisas ou falsas nas redes sociais; d) a consagração dos agregadores de conteúdo, da inteligência coletiva e das conversações on-line como uma mídia; e) a popularização das [...]

]]> By: Desire Mesh » Blog Archive » GNIP - making data portability suck less (or more compelling?) http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-3722 Desire Mesh » Blog Archive » GNIP - making data portability suck less (or more compelling?) Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:43:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=4#comment-3722 [...] to easily access user data from a variety of sources. Currently an application consuming user data must write-in direct support for each API for every service it requires, which usually requires a lot of development effort in terms of [...] [...] to easily access user data from a variety of sources. Currently an application consuming user data must write-in direct support for each API for every service it requires, which usually requires a lot of development effort in terms of [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » ウェブサービスの負担を軽減するGnip http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-389 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » ウェブサービスの負担を軽減するGnip Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:06:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=4#comment-389 [...] Gnipの動作に関するより詳しい情報はTechCrunchITの概観記事および、データストリームアグリゲーションに関するこちらの議論を参照して欲しい。 [...] [...] Gnipの動作に関するより詳しい情報はTechCrunchITの概観記事および、データストリームアグリゲーションに関するこちらの議論を参照して欲しい。 [...]

]]> By: Gnip Launches To Ease The Strain On Web Services http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-314 Gnip Launches To Ease The Strain On Web Services Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:00:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=4#comment-314 [...] a fuller description of how Gnip works, see the full overview at TechCrunchIT and this discussion on datastream [...] [...] a fuller description of how Gnip works, see the full overview at TechCrunchIT and this discussion on datastream [...]

]]> By: Gnip: We got $h*t to pop » The WHAT of Gnip: Changing APIs from pull to push http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-302 Gnip: We got $h*t to pop » The WHAT of Gnip: Changing APIs from pull to push Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:22:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=4#comment-302 [...] For a great overview of the situation Gnip is plunging into, checkout Nik Cubrilovic’s post on techcrunchIT; “The New Datastream Aggregators, FriendFeed and Standards.”. [...] [...] For a great overview of the situation Gnip is plunging into, checkout Nik Cubrilovic’s post on techcrunchIT; “The New Datastream Aggregators, FriendFeed and Standards.”. [...]

]]> By: Kris http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-134 Kris Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:04:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=4#comment-134 Good article! This is going to be a real challenge for the semantic web. We must really structure data in order to make it relevant, but where do you draw the line? We have Atom feeds, which are very widely used, but what about microformats? We have a lot of them! There is hCalendar, XFN, hCard Dublin core, to name some. Besides, they are usually used within a website and not really in external data feeds. How far can you standardize? What I also believe, is that we need intelligent systems who are able to recognize the structure of a whole document, and not justs parts of it that have some MediaRSS in it. Can we standardize a format that allows you to specify a type of web service? How to distinguish a blog from a status service or bookmarking service? Interesting discussion I think. Good article! This is going to be a real challenge for the semantic web. We must really structure data in order to make it relevant, but where do you draw the line? We have Atom feeds, which are very widely used, but what about microformats? We have a lot of them! There is hCalendar, XFN, hCard Dublin core, to name some. Besides, they are usually used within a website and not really in external data feeds. How far can you standardize?
What I also believe, is that we need intelligent systems who are able to recognize the structure of a whole document, and not justs parts of it that have some MediaRSS in it. Can we standardize a format that allows you to specify a type of web service? How to distinguish a blog from a status service or bookmarking service?

Interesting discussion I think.

]]> By: nik http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-130 nik Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:49:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=4#comment-130 "Great coverage guys. I just wish the article had a little more depth. You cant kick off a conversation like this and leave it in its current state." Definitely not, just kicking off an ongoing conversation.. I will put more related links into posts, this came up in a real-world conversation. Thanks for the feedback! “Great coverage guys. I just wish the article had a little more depth. You cant kick off a conversation like this and leave it in its current state.”

Definitely not, just kicking off an ongoing conversation..

I will put more related links into posts, this came up in a real-world conversation. Thanks for the feedback!

]]> By: John http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-129 John Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:50:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=4#comment-129 Peter, I think this is a great article for techcrunchit. It goes more into the technical nuances that techcrunch does not cover. Great coverage guys. I just wish the article had a little more depth. You cant kick off a conversation like this and leave it in its current state. I imagine you read a few articles, papers or books for this story. Linking to a few of those could help spawn a more complete, interesting and educated discussion! Just my two cents. Keep up the great work guys. Peter,

I think this is a great article for techcrunchit. It goes more into the technical nuances that techcrunch does not cover.

Great coverage guys. I just wish the article had a little more depth. You cant kick off a conversation like this and leave it in its current state.

I imagine you read a few articles, papers or books for this story. Linking to a few of those could help spawn a more complete, interesting and educated discussion!

Just my two cents.

Keep up the great work guys.

]]> By: nik http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-123 nik Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:13:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=4#comment-123 Peter - we will bring it all together over time Peter – we will bring it all together over time

]]> By: MySpace Opens Up The Data Pipe With Full Launch Of Data Availability http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-114 MySpace Opens Up The Data Pipe With Full Launch Of Data Availability Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:00:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=4#comment-114 [...] data portability requires constant syncing of data so that the users remain in control. But until real standards emerge on just how to do that (and there are some big hurdles), MySpace’s approach seems more than reasonable. This is a [...] [...] data portability requires constant syncing of data so that the users remain in control. But until real standards emerge on just how to do that (and there are some big hurdles), MySpace’s approach seems more than reasonable. This is a [...]

]]> By: Peter http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-111 Peter Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:35:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=4#comment-111 seems odd to cover this on TCIT. seems odd to cover this on TCIT.

]]> By: Tom Martin http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-110 Tom Martin Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:45:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=4#comment-110 The issue with requiring FriendFeed to adopt and support an open format is that a standardization of this service would completely remove their value add. The development time and infrastructure that FriendFeed have contributed would become worthless when the entire problem could be solved by a simpler Google Reader type app that only needs to parse one format. The issue with requiring FriendFeed to adopt and support an open format is that a standardization of this service would completely remove their value add. The development time and infrastructure that FriendFeed have contributed would become worthless when the entire problem could be solved by a simpler Google Reader type app that only needs to parse one format.

]]> By: michael arrington http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008/06/26/the-new-datastream-aggregators-friendfeed-and-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-109 michael arrington Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:22:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunchit.com/?p=4#comment-109 reminds me of my post on the Centralized Me. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/30/friendfeed-the-centralized-me-and-data-portability/ Somehow FriendFeed is now at the very center of the data standards and portability debate. reminds me of my post on the Centralized Me.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/30/friendfeed-the-centralized-me-and-data-portability/

Somehow FriendFeed is now at the very center of the data standards and portability debate.

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