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		<title>By: Google Wave To Bring Web 2.0 Lifestyle to Work « Web Strategy by Jeremiah Owyang &#124; Social Media, Web Marketing &#171; Writing Crystallizes Thought</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-11251</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Wave To Bring Web 2.0 Lifestyle to Work « Web Strategy by Jeremiah Owyang &#124; Social Media, Web Marketing &#171; Writing Crystallizes Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] matters is that the developer ecosystem developing on the&#160;platform, (Thank you Steve) where third party developers will do the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Google Wave To Bring Web 2.0 Lifestyle to Work &#171; Web Strategy by Jeremiah Owyang &#124; Social Media, Web Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10868</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Wave To Bring Web 2.0 Lifestyle to Work &#171; Web Strategy by Jeremiah Owyang &#124; Social Media, Web Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] matters is that the developer ecosystem developing on the platform, (Thank you Steve) where third party developers will do the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Google Wave To Bring Web 2.0 Lifestyle to Work &#8212; TwtBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10865</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Wave To Bring Web 2.0 Lifestyle to Work &#8212; TwtBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 17:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] matters is that the developer ecosystem developing on the platform, (Thank you Steve) where third party developers will do the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Google Wave To Brings Web 2.0 Lifestyle to Work &#124; GAby Menta</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10854</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Wave To Brings Web 2.0 Lifestyle to Work &#124; GAby Menta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 21:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] matters is that the developer ecosystem developing on the platform, (Thank you Steve) where third party developers will do the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Shonzilla</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10853</link>
		<dc:creator>Shonzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 20:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Java client applications on the desktop never really caught up. That&#039;s true. Everywhere else, it&#039;s prominently used alongside heavier frameworks like .NET and lighter ones like Rails (hm... Grails). 

Google is a clear proponent of Java and is contributing to Java community quite a lot - from Joshua Bloch (Java features) to library authors like Bob Lee (Guice), Bruce Johnson (GWT) and several others. 

With improvements to JVM and script languages we&#039;re can also recognize Java as the core language for developing libraries used by more agile script languages.

On the mobile client, Java programming language is used for Android which  is getting its fair amount of limelight.

In a nutshell, with Google alive and kicking Java (and Java software developers) has nothing to be afraid of. :-)

Cheers!
Shonzilla</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Java client applications on the desktop never really caught up. That&#8217;s true. Everywhere else, it&#8217;s prominently used alongside heavier frameworks like .NET and lighter ones like Rails (hm&#8230; Grails). </p>
<p>Google is a clear proponent of Java and is contributing to Java community quite a lot &#8211; from Joshua Bloch (Java features) to library authors like Bob Lee (Guice), Bruce Johnson (GWT) and several others. </p>
<p>With improvements to JVM and script languages we&#8217;re can also recognize Java as the core language for developing libraries used by more agile script languages.</p>
<p>On the mobile client, Java programming language is used for Android which  is getting its fair amount of limelight.</p>
<p>In a nutshell, with Google alive and kicking Java (and Java software developers) has nothing to be afraid of. :-)</p>
<p>Cheers!<br />
Shonzilla</p>
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		<title>By: DotComGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10852</link>
		<dc:creator>DotComGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 16:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What false assumptions?  Google is very smart and should be admired for this strategy.  Look at yesterday&#039;s debut of Wave.  The only way to change communication protocals (email, chat, etc...) is for everyone to change.  That will either happen over decades of committee meetings that go nowhere or overnight through grass-roots (cynics might call it Astroturf) development and adoption.  I&#039;ts a bit like the concept in Co-opetition http://mayet.som.yale.edu/coopetition/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What false assumptions?  Google is very smart and should be admired for this strategy.  Look at yesterday&#8217;s debut of Wave.  The only way to change communication protocals (email, chat, etc&#8230;) is for everyone to change.  That will either happen over decades of committee meetings that go nowhere or overnight through grass-roots (cynics might call it Astroturf) development and adoption.  I&#8217;ts a bit like the concept in Co-opetition <a href="http://mayet.som.yale.edu/coopetition/" rel="nofollow">http://mayet.som.yale.edu/coopetition/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Google Wave To Brings Web 2.0 Lifestyle to Work &#171; Web Strategy by Jeremiah Owyang &#124; Social Media, Web Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google Wave To Brings Web 2.0 Lifestyle to Work &#171; Web Strategy by Jeremiah Owyang &#124; Social Media, Web Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] matters is that the developer ecosystem developing on the platform, (Thank you Steve) where third party developers will do the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aron Michalski</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10848</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron Michalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to know you&#039;re a public service. Thank you for your selfless sacrifice. I&#039;ll leave you be while you make the world a safer place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to know you&#8217;re a public service. Thank you for your selfless sacrifice. I&#8217;ll leave you be while you make the world a safer place.</p>
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		<title>By: Derry Quinn</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10844</link>
		<dc:creator>Derry Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 23:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We know that, it&#039;s the fact that the article is a pile of shit that we&#039;re talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know that, it&#8217;s the fact that the article is a pile of shit that we&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Simpson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10843</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You raise a very good point.  If only my television featured a comments option!  I would embrace the ability to let each and every broadcast agency, host, and general douche on television know what I think as a viewer.  How empowering that would be...

I do not enjoy getting filled with ire; well, ok, maybe a little (don&#039;t we all).  In the case of this &quot;article&quot;, Gillmor forces it upon the reader.  I have concluded it is humanly impossible to read his meanderings without experience &quot;ire&quot;.  

It is in the spirit of altruism that we, the public, speak out and express our opinion, and, dare I say, DISAGREE with someone&#039;s take on things.  You see, it is not selfish motives that drive my comments, it is a heroic attempt to protect the public from Gillmor&#039;s insanity.  You are welcome. 

Shall we avoid speaking passionately about subjects that matter to us lest we risk bruising one&#039;s delicate ego?  Fuck no!  If you speak brashly and without caution, be prepared for the response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You raise a very good point.  If only my television featured a comments option!  I would embrace the ability to let each and every broadcast agency, host, and general douche on television know what I think as a viewer.  How empowering that would be&#8230;</p>
<p>I do not enjoy getting filled with ire; well, ok, maybe a little (don&#8217;t we all).  In the case of this &#8220;article&#8221;, Gillmor forces it upon the reader.  I have concluded it is humanly impossible to read his meanderings without experience &#8220;ire&#8221;.  </p>
<p>It is in the spirit of altruism that we, the public, speak out and express our opinion, and, dare I say, DISAGREE with someone&#8217;s take on things.  You see, it is not selfish motives that drive my comments, it is a heroic attempt to protect the public from Gillmor&#8217;s insanity.  You are welcome. </p>
<p>Shall we avoid speaking passionately about subjects that matter to us lest we risk bruising one&#8217;s delicate ego?  Fuck no!  If you speak brashly and without caution, be prepared for the response.</p>
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		<title>By: Derry Quinn</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10841</link>
		<dc:creator>Derry Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*one raised eyebrow*</description>
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		<title>By: Synack</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10840</link>
		<dc:creator>Synack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nowhere near an interesting point, it moronic pseudo logic base on false assumptions.

I&#039;m geussing that your name is actually Larry and you just haven&#039;t learned to spell it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nowhere near an interesting point, it moronic pseudo logic base on false assumptions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m geussing that your name is actually Larry and you just haven&#8217;t learned to spell it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Synack</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10839</link>
		<dc:creator>Synack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A club of idiots. Gilmore is writing about a developer conference from a developers perspective. If you can&#039;t see such simple concepts, go comment on the idiots club blog where you belong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A club of idiots. Gilmore is writing about a developer conference from a developers perspective. If you can&#8217;t see such simple concepts, go comment on the idiots club blog where you belong.</p>
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		<title>By: Aron Michalski</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10837</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron Michalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those that don&#039;t want to, do. It would make sense if they didn&#039;t.  Those than can, can. Is anyone holding a gun to your head when you surf the internet or do you truly enjoy getting filled with ire and writing comments? Do you always watch TV channels you despise all day long as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those that don&#8217;t want to, do. It would make sense if they didn&#8217;t.  Those than can, can. Is anyone holding a gun to your head when you surf the internet or do you truly enjoy getting filled with ire and writing comments? Do you always watch TV channels you despise all day long as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Cuthrell</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10831</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Cuthrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 04:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m at the event.  As I got in late I only now appreciate this in review of what was handed to me at my checkin today.  I was handed a phone.  An HTC running Android.

Excuse me? Yes.  I was handed a phone. Free.

I&#039;m reading this after opening my Android phone.  It&#039;s not the old G1.  It&#039;s not got a keyboard.  It&#039;s virtual keyboard made sense and was accurate.  I was prompted to sync to my Google account when I signed in for the first time.  Clever.  Useful.  Stable.  I was able to browse to the comment website for the I/O event on both 3g and WiFi with ease.

My iPhone sitting next to it as I documented some of this made me wonder what I&#039;ve been carrying around since late 2008.  At lunch, another iPhone user that develops for Android said he estimated I&#039;d be using my iPhone first as primary and then later come back to play with the HTC.

The OTA upgrade to 1.5 and reboot just &quot;worked&quot;.  I was able to get into the Market easily.  Maps worked far better than I expected.

What really brought it home was how well Gmail worked.  Previews.  All of it.

I&#039;m tapping in my thoughts in response to this article from an HP netbook.  I&#039;m using Windows XP and Firefox but today I took the Chrome plunge and will be coming back to review it more.   As the lunch group broke up to head to more sessions, his parting shot was &quot;you just don&#039;t know you&#039;re going to give up the iPhone yet&quot;.

One of the things I loathe is the spawning of Flash or a Java applet and watching my machine crawl -- and today I get to imagine a world where neither of these clunkers are mandated for the future of what I consider to be Web access interfaces.  Neither of these show up on iPhone today. If it comes to a wait period, if it comes to a choice in development platforms, I can only see Google generating greater returns for this investment today.

My next plan is to get Android apps running on my Ubuntu laptop once I get back to dig into that.  While I am comfortable on various platforms, my Apple world has been questioned today but not as much as my Flash and Java world.  

So many things will have to change as this plays out but it&#039;s the only progress that makes sense.  Flash and Java are bridges to expectations and not reflections of the path for progress itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m at the event.  As I got in late I only now appreciate this in review of what was handed to me at my checkin today.  I was handed a phone.  An HTC running Android.</p>
<p>Excuse me? Yes.  I was handed a phone. Free.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reading this after opening my Android phone.  It&#8217;s not the old G1.  It&#8217;s not got a keyboard.  It&#8217;s virtual keyboard made sense and was accurate.  I was prompted to sync to my Google account when I signed in for the first time.  Clever.  Useful.  Stable.  I was able to browse to the comment website for the I/O event on both 3g and WiFi with ease.</p>
<p>My iPhone sitting next to it as I documented some of this made me wonder what I&#8217;ve been carrying around since late 2008.  At lunch, another iPhone user that develops for Android said he estimated I&#8217;d be using my iPhone first as primary and then later come back to play with the HTC.</p>
<p>The OTA upgrade to 1.5 and reboot just &#8220;worked&#8221;.  I was able to get into the Market easily.  Maps worked far better than I expected.</p>
<p>What really brought it home was how well Gmail worked.  Previews.  All of it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tapping in my thoughts in response to this article from an HP netbook.  I&#8217;m using Windows XP and Firefox but today I took the Chrome plunge and will be coming back to review it more.   As the lunch group broke up to head to more sessions, his parting shot was &#8220;you just don&#8217;t know you&#8217;re going to give up the iPhone yet&#8221;.</p>
<p>One of the things I loathe is the spawning of Flash or a Java applet and watching my machine crawl &#8212; and today I get to imagine a world where neither of these clunkers are mandated for the future of what I consider to be Web access interfaces.  Neither of these show up on iPhone today. If it comes to a wait period, if it comes to a choice in development platforms, I can only see Google generating greater returns for this investment today.</p>
<p>My next plan is to get Android apps running on my Ubuntu laptop once I get back to dig into that.  While I am comfortable on various platforms, my Apple world has been questioned today but not as much as my Flash and Java world.  </p>
<p>So many things will have to change as this plays out but it&#8217;s the only progress that makes sense.  Flash and Java are bridges to expectations and not reflections of the path for progress itself.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveZatz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10827</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveZatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 00:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it either. Where are these 4,000 phones? I want one!</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10826</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 00:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve: I&#039;m going to tweet this article.  I took the article to be about the competitive dynamics in play among Google, Apple and Microsoft as they all jockey for position in their spaces, e.g., hardware platforms, OS platforms, software platforms.  

But the real reason to tweet the article are the comments.  Hoots, jeers, catcalls, some faint praise, and some insight.  What fun!

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: I&#8217;m going to tweet this article.  I took the article to be about the competitive dynamics in play among Google, Apple and Microsoft as they all jockey for position in their spaces, e.g., hardware platforms, OS platforms, software platforms.  </p>
<p>But the real reason to tweet the article are the comments.  Hoots, jeers, catcalls, some faint praise, and some insight.  What fun!</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Simpson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10824</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything I&#039;ve ever read by Gillmor is profoundly incoherent and rambles on without purpose.  Remember his recent assertion that RSS is dead?  Cutting edge?  No.  Challenging convention?  No.  Insightful?  No.  Plan bad?  Yes.

I am sincerely intrigued by what motivates Arrington to provide Gillmor a platform here on TC.  It dilutes the quality of the articles and is an insult to the much more competent staff writers TC has.

Gillmor tries to dazzle with bullsh*t intermingled with acronyms and industry terms that he does not comprehend.  I am now convinced that he penned this wonderfully technical scene from CSI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything I&#8217;ve ever read by Gillmor is profoundly incoherent and rambles on without purpose.  Remember his recent assertion that RSS is dead?  Cutting edge?  No.  Challenging convention?  No.  Insightful?  No.  Plan bad?  Yes.</p>
<p>I am sincerely intrigued by what motivates Arrington to provide Gillmor a platform here on TC.  It dilutes the quality of the articles and is an insult to the much more competent staff writers TC has.</p>
<p>Gillmor tries to dazzle with bullsh*t intermingled with acronyms and industry terms that he does not comprehend.  I am now convinced that he penned this wonderfully technical scene from CSI: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU</a></p>
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		<title>By: Amit Kumar</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10823</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all the above commenters...I can&#039;t figure out what this article is trying to say.  Gillmor has only a superficial grasp of tech concepts.  He tries to wow his readers with strained, confused metaphors and &quot;clever&quot; references to a bunch of buzzwords.  What&#039;s a &quot;musical question&quot;?  What&#039;s &quot;media sequencing&quot;?  What the hell are &quot;bit-stained wretches&quot;?  &quot;Firefox is the stalking horse through which Google seeds the broader market&quot;--you can seed through a horse?  Goddamnit man, just give us some clear information about what&#039;s going on.  Or at least a concise, coherent opinion about what&#039;s going on.   TechCrunch, don&#039;t you edit your writers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all the above commenters&#8230;I can&#8217;t figure out what this article is trying to say.  Gillmor has only a superficial grasp of tech concepts.  He tries to wow his readers with strained, confused metaphors and &#8220;clever&#8221; references to a bunch of buzzwords.  What&#8217;s a &#8220;musical question&#8221;?  What&#8217;s &#8220;media sequencing&#8221;?  What the hell are &#8220;bit-stained wretches&#8221;?  &#8220;Firefox is the stalking horse through which Google seeds the broader market&#8221;&#8211;you can seed through a horse?  Goddamnit man, just give us some clear information about what&#8217;s going on.  Or at least a concise, coherent opinion about what&#8217;s going on.   TechCrunch, don&#8217;t you edit your writers?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10822</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where exactly do we disagree?</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10821</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mostly  in the context of Java as a transport for streaming down updates and new code to the installed base, i.e. on the client side. As a programming language, it has never been stronger in the Google tooling from AppEngine to GWT to Eclipse. Apple has blocked Java and Flash on the iPhone and HTML 5 promises to continue that trend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mostly  in the context of Java as a transport for streaming down updates and new code to the installed base, i.e. on the client side. As a programming language, it has never been stronger in the Google tooling from AppEngine to GWT to Eclipse. Apple has blocked Java and Flash on the iPhone and HTML 5 promises to continue that trend.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim F.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10820</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s actually the most coherent post by Gillmor I&#039;ve read. Not saying much. And he&#039;s mostly wrong as usual.

Steve is giving Google credit for HTML5 which will have a future on Android and in Google&#039;s own services. This is supposedly brilliant for Google (even though the companies who will benefit from HTML5 are legion -- just not Microsoft -- and Google&#039;s by no means responsible for it -- thousands have contributed to the long-in-the-coming HTML5... Android has it because of WebKit which is maintained by Apple -- in fact, one could say Apple benefits more than Google from HTML5 even though they don&#039;t play in the web services business very much, etc...) Because HTML5 and Cupcake are so brilliant, Google kicks ass and gives out free phones (not because they have a bunch of unsold boxes sitting around approaching the value of zero, but because happy developers is more profitable than paid services and expensive devices so you might as well give it away).

I say HTML5 still has a long row to hoe. And many will benefit if it does achieve critical mass. Apple and Google&#039;s web standards goals are perfectly aligned, and they are working well to make it happen, with all of their strategies, services, products applying pressure. (Conversely, I see Mozilla flagging and perhaps losing despite their own contributions to the web&#039;s advancement.) But there is still plenty of inertia and lack of creativity in a broad market still dominated by Microsoft and those uninspired by taking the web to the next level.

Apple and Google definitely have the advantage of having the best toys, services, APIs, and RDF to spread around and bribe people. That used to be Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s actually the most coherent post by Gillmor I&#8217;ve read. Not saying much. And he&#8217;s mostly wrong as usual.</p>
<p>Steve is giving Google credit for HTML5 which will have a future on Android and in Google&#8217;s own services. This is supposedly brilliant for Google (even though the companies who will benefit from HTML5 are legion &#8212; just not Microsoft &#8212; and Google&#8217;s by no means responsible for it &#8212; thousands have contributed to the long-in-the-coming HTML5&#8230; Android has it because of WebKit which is maintained by Apple &#8212; in fact, one could say Apple benefits more than Google from HTML5 even though they don&#8217;t play in the web services business very much, etc&#8230;) Because HTML5 and Cupcake are so brilliant, Google kicks ass and gives out free phones (not because they have a bunch of unsold boxes sitting around approaching the value of zero, but because happy developers is more profitable than paid services and expensive devices so you might as well give it away).</p>
<p>I say HTML5 still has a long row to hoe. And many will benefit if it does achieve critical mass. Apple and Google&#8217;s web standards goals are perfectly aligned, and they are working well to make it happen, with all of their strategies, services, products applying pressure. (Conversely, I see Mozilla flagging and perhaps losing despite their own contributions to the web&#8217;s advancement.) But there is still plenty of inertia and lack of creativity in a broad market still dominated by Microsoft and those uninspired by taking the web to the next level.</p>
<p>Apple and Google definitely have the advantage of having the best toys, services, APIs, and RDF to spread around and bribe people. That used to be Microsoft.</p>
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		<title>By: Foobar</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10819</link>
		<dc:creator>Foobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 22:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seconded. Giving away Androids, HTML 5, battery life, App Store.... WTF?!?!? How are any of those related?</description>
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		<title>By: Brandon Watson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009/05/27/free-as-in-android/comment-page-1/#comment-10818</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 22:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, can you comment why you think that Java is going away?  I can&#039;t seem to grok this point vis a vis the notion that Android is native Java dev platform.  Further, I am confused by the AppEngine roll out of Java, the pursuit of GWT (which cross compiles Java to JavaScript), and muxing that with all of the talk of how important JavaScript is as the &quot;simple&quot; (Vic&#039;s words from this morning, not mine) solution for web app development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, can you comment why you think that Java is going away?  I can&#8217;t seem to grok this point vis a vis the notion that Android is native Java dev platform.  Further, I am confused by the AppEngine roll out of Java, the pursuit of GWT (which cross compiles Java to JavaScript), and muxing that with all of the talk of how important JavaScript is as the &#8220;simple&#8221; (Vic&#8217;s words from this morning, not mine) solution for web app development.</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 22:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a crystal clear &amp; well written piece.</description>
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